The square as it looked like in a winter day

The square wa as once partially used as a parking but it was only open to roundabouts and outdoor games during festivities.

....here's the digging on the right side of the square (from Po street to the river).

Scavi p. Vittorio

Here too we can find archaeologists at work , skilled workers and their excavations .

Who knows, perhaps here too nothing was supposed to be under the road bed. But someone else was sure that the square hid the walls of the medieval town.

A detail of diggings, but...isn't there a room beyond this wall?

We know from elders' memories,and from some documents too, about the existence of one or more galleries going from Palazzo Reale (King's Palace) under the river Po to the Gran Madre (Big Mother), joining there with a net of galleries to old palaces at the hills' foot.

Surely authorities know about this existence but they don't seem to be scared destroying these historical subways. ....it's only old stuff.

Yes, that is exactly an old gallery being walled up.

Another detail of diggings with an archaeologist at work...

I "stole" this picture with his big disappoint.

The gentleman in the photo told me kindly that I was not allowed to take pictures of the works save from a hole in the nets.

This for security reasons,but also because the pictures should have been secretely delivered to the Superintendence to Archaeological Goods...but is this secrecy fixed by a law?

So,must the citizen be satisfied of journalistic informations reporting the "official version",oft reticent or untrue?

But this way of acting seems to be the rule (naturally only the italian way, since things seem to go different in the rest of Europe...oh yes, I forgot that Italy is still part of Third World..).

Excavator working to a "damned wall".

So, let's look for informations in the newspaper "La Stampa" journal

Maurizio Lupo

Since a few days, when the Major Sergio Chiamparino looks out of his house's window he can see the ruins of a big country "villa"of imperial roman epoch.

Nowadays the vestiges occupy nearly one thousand sq. meters but two thousand years ago they were much more wide. They came to light in Vittorio Veneto square during the diggings for the subterranean parking.

The Superintendence's archaeologists,leader Marina Sapelli Ragni,have identified an articulated layer of findings.

It comes since the first years of the baroque town's foundation. Besides the villa,well preserved and unsuspected canteens of 1500 have been found too. So as Torino's fortifications, 1700, with their ditch, exactly found where the Politecnico's teachers Vera Comoli and Luciano Re suspected them to be. The digging out has exhumed a big common grave, with human mortal remains dating back to "Torino's Siege"of 1706.

Some probably were soldiers, but with them rested, for about three hundred years, a ten years old girl, who died in those days when the whole town fighted to defend Piemonte's indipendence.

These memorie's rescue relies on the archaeologists coordinated by Marco Subbrizio and Alessandro Crivello under the direction of Luisella Pejrani. Works look like an open book on the history of the Town.

"At the corner of Bonafous street, Pejrani explains, a country Villa of imperial roman epoch appeared. It's a compound that at those times was in the open country, out of city walls and near to the river Po." It had a big rectangular yard, perhaps with a pillar sustained shed. Traces of these pillars are still there with many tiles in brickwork. We fancy that the building was composed by four constructions, with stone foundations and some internal walls in raw clay. Pavements were in beaten earth. It's a poor building industry as we can compare with better preserved remains of another villa found in 1997 under the firemen's barracks in Regina Margherita Avenue. The diggings, as Marco Subbrizio says, have identified by now only two of the house's sleeves. The west one, facing Po street, is composed by five rooms with inner walls. The east one faces the river.

Another detail of diggings with an archaeologist at work.......

Vittorio Veneto square - Past and present times - Roberto - page 2 of 4
Who knows, perhaps here too nothing was supposed to be under the road bed. But someone else was sure that the square hid the walls of the medieval town. A detail of diggings, but...isn't there a room beyond this wall? We know from elders' memories,and from some documents too, about the existence of one or more galleries going from Palazzo Reale (King's Palace) under the river Po to the Gran Madre (Big Mother), joining there with a net of galleries to old palaces at the hills' foot. Surely authorities know about this existence but they don't seem to be scared destroying these historical subways. ....it's only old stuff. Yes, that is exactly an old gallery being walled up.

Vittorio Veneto square-Past and present times-Roberto-page 4 of 4.
So, let's look for informations in the newspaper "La Stampa" journal We can read: Maurizio Lupo Since a few days, when the Major Sergio Chiamparino looks out of his house's window he can see the ruins of a big country "villa"of imperial roman epoch. Nowadays the vestiges occupy nearly one thousand sq. meters but two thousand years ago they were much more wide. They came to light in Vittorio Veneto square during the diggings for the subterranean parking. The Superintendence's archaeologists,leader Marina Sapelli Ragni,have identified an articulated layer of findings. It comes since the first years of the baroque town's foundation. Besides the villa,well preserved and unsuspected canteens of 1500 have been found too. So as Torino's fortifications, 1700, with their ditch, exactly found where the Politecnico's teachers Vera Comoli and Luciano Re suspected them to be. The digging out has exhumed a big common grave, with human mortal remains dating back to "Torino's Siege"of 1706. Some probably were soldiers, but with them rested, for about three hundred years, a ten years old girl, who died in those days when the whole town fighted to defend Piemonte's indipendence. These memorie's rescue relies on the archaeologists coordinated by Marco Subbrizio and Alessandro Crivello under the direction of Luisella Pejrani. Works look like an open book on the history of the Town. "At the corner of Bonafous street, Pejrani explains, a country Villa of imperial roman epoch appeared. It's a compound that at those times was in the open country, out of city walls and near to the river Po." It had a big rectangular yard, perhaps with a pillar sustained shed. Traces of these pillars are still there with many tiles in brickwork. We fancy that the building was composed by four constructions, with stone foundations and some internal walls in raw clay. Pavements were in beaten earth. It's a poor building industry as we can compare with better preserved remains of another villa found in 1997 under the firemen's barracks in Regina Margherita Avenue. The diggings, as Marco Subbrizio says, have identified by now only two of the house's sleeves. The west one, facing Po street, is composed by five rooms with inner walls. The east one faces the river. Another detail of diggings with an archaeologist at work.......